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this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, and welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. we are following breaking news this hour. a powerful earthquake rocked central italy early wednesday morning. the # 6.2 magnitude quake collapsed buildings and trapped people in the rubble near the town of norcia. we are now getting a daytime look at the damage. our affiliate, rai, reports at least 14 people were killed. the mayor of amatrice says his town is no more, and access to the area is cut off. three helicopters and six vehicles are heading to the
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quake zone to set up mobile medical units. facebook safety check is active for people to connect with each other in the affected areas, and of course as i'm talking to you, we are looking at these live pictures from the center of this quake. now, these, of course, it's daylight, so we're getting an idea of this damage. you can see the heavy lifting land equipment there in place, but we want to get an update now, cnn contributor bobbie joins us with more details. as we take a look at those live pictures, it's critical now it's daytime people can make a better assessment of the damage. what are you learning about that, and of course the casualties and what assistance and support mechanisms have been put in place so far? >> reporter: well, the first of these earthquakes started -- happened about five hours ago now, and so the emergency services have been doing everything they can to reach these affected areas, the
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italian prime minister, matteo renzi, called a state of emergency almost immediately which allows everybody to get into place. the army has been sent out too as well because they've got the kind of heavy equipment that's going to be needed to get into these areas. one of the concerns is just access at this point. these towns are all 200 or 300-year-old villages. even though this is a seismic area, you know, these buildings weren't built for any sort of movement like we saw overnight. we've heard as many as 14 dead but there really are concerned that number's going to go higher. the mayor of amatrice, the town -- it goes to the epicenter, a town of 2,000 people says half his town is gone and we've seen report after report on italian media and then social networking of people describing how they're digging through the rubble trying to find survivors, stories of three generations of families there spending their summer holidays
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together there. this is a very popular part of italy where people come from all over europe and the united states to spend their summers. schools don't start for three or four weeks so people are still in that holiday mode and people are in the mountains this time of the year to escape the heat and so we don't -- we're not looking at even statistics in terms of how many people might be affected, but by some estimates about a million people could be in this area around this time of the year, rosemary. >> and bobbie, as you mentioned rs the big concern here is emergency vehicles not actually being able to access those most in need. talk to us, too, about the aftershocks. so many at this point and that is the real worry, isn't it, because of course the first earthquake makes it unstable, and then the following aftershocks make that damage all the more greater so talk to us about what you're hearing about that. >> well, just to give you some perspective, 160 kilometers away in rome where i was at 3:30 this
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morning, the earthquake woke me up, really did shake me out of bed and one an hour after that was extremely strong in the city of rome 160 kilometers away. that means at the epicenter, one can't even imagine how strong that earthquake must have been. but also making this more difficult is the fact that these building are so old, and as you said, the first earthquake may compromise the structurally and the second and third aftershock are what really knocks them apart. we saw this in 2009 in l'aquila which was a similar size and scope earthquake where over 300 people died and that city in l'aquila in this area as well still hasn't been rebuilt because there's so much seismic activity in the area. it's going to be interesting, i suppose, as well, to see if anybody learned any lessons from that devastating earthquake after that quake hit, there were national regulations puts into place that any building over 100 years old had to be reinforced
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with anti-seismic reinforcements. it's going to be interesting to see if anybody took that advice and if any lessons were learned in 2009. authorities are going to be looking at that once they figure out what the death toll is in this devastating earthquake, rosemary. >> that is most definitely critical, bobbie nadeau, she is on her way to the quake zone and we will talk to her a little later this hour. many thanks to you, bobbie. a national spokesman for the italian red cross joins us now by phone from rome. now, talk to us, because rome, of course, being so far away, but yet people did feel the effects of this, and you were able to talk to us about what is happening there at the epicenter. how much information have you been able to ascertain at this point? >> hi, hello, good morning, and thank you, first of all. actually, we got information
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right after the earthquake because we have our local pranchs of our volunteers in the small cities that were hit by the earthquake like amatrice. one of our delegates sent us several pictures and they're really terrible, more than half of the city is not anymore there. and our volunteers were even themselves from by there, by the earthquake, so first of all, they helped their own family and then they started working to support the affected people. but the situation is still very difficult and the main challenge now is to send as much as possible search and rescue teams. >> now, we were talking, of course, with bobbie about the problem associated with getting heavy lifting equipment in there. the access is really difficult at this point, and so the concern here, of course, is the number of people that may be under this rubble, and we're
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talking about very old buildings here, so the structures are not good at this point. so, talk to us about how you're working with other organizations to gain access to these worst hit areas. >> actually, as italian red cross, we're a part of the italian civil protection system. we are following the situation with our presence in the national situation room and since the beginning, we mobilize all our emergency centers. so, not only is red cross but we can see as italian emergency response system, there were several helicopters that brought their search and rescue teams. then, we are thanking god until now the biggest road is still there, so all our men are going now with ambulances and search and rescue teams because the first priority now is to find people under the building that
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collapsed and so to find the survivors. you have to understand that this area is very rural, is in the middle of mountains and valleys, so there is not only the problem of the small cities like amatrice, for instance, but also really probably small villages and also houses that are completely alone in the middle of the valley. so, they need to have help as soon as possible so this is the main challenge. >> and so as we have been talking to you, we have been looking at these live pictures and perhaps if we can go back to amatrice where we saw rescue efforts there, we saw people gathered around an area, presumably in an effort to pull somebody from the rubble, the collapsed building there, and of course you get a real idea of just how difficult this task is. we've got these men on hand to hopefully be able to retrieve somebody safely from under all of that rubble, and this is the
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big concern, of course, and the other concern, sir, is once this rescue and recovery operation is completed, then, of course, there will be so many people that won't have homes. we've already learned that amatrice, for the most part, is a destroyed town. >> yeah, obviously, there is another priority, but at this stage, we are really working around the clock to find survivors. i heard the news like 15 minutes ago that one of our search and rescue team in the province, they found two guys -- i mean, two persons alive under a building that collapsed. so, this is our first priority. then, obviously, we are mobilizing, pitching field tents, and all this type of structure to respond to the emergency. and then, obviously, will be probably hundreds or thousands
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people without a house, so it will be unfortunately the next step. >> and as we know, it's these hours immediately after an earthquake hits and of course those aftershocks as well, but those critical hours where people have to work particularly hard to get to those who are caught under the rubble. we've heard of many stories, many days, sometimes weeks after earthquakes, people have been rescued from under the rubble, so what sort of number -- when we're talking about the equipment that's available, and i know this might be outside your area of expertise, but can you talk to us about what -- what is available there in italy and particularly in central italy there, that can be used immediately. >> actually, we can say, fortunately, that the italian civil protection and the emergency response system is a system that is working well, and unfortunately, we saw it in the
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earthquake in l'aquila in 2009 and then there was another earthquake some years after, so there are -- the situation is that there are several emergency response center in almost all the region all around italy, so we have volunteers and professionals that are ready to be deployed when something happens and it is exactly what is happening now in the center of italy. obviously, the logistic part is a challenge because of the rural area, because of the roads and so on. >> exactly right. and we wish you all of the best with the work that you are doing. we know it is brave, it is incredible what your organization does, talking there with tomasso, national spokesman for the italian red cross. many thanks to you. and joining us now is our meteorologist pedram javaheri. this is critical as well when you're talking about rescues like this. i heard that you were saying
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that the weather looks good at least. that is a big concern. >> it does and it looks like a prolonged nice weather period as well, getting an extended period of five, six days of sunshine, temperatures around 75 to 80 fahrenheit so it is ideal scenario as far as being able to survive if you are trapped and for rescue efforts to be taking place across this region. but looking into the history of this particular region, about 10,000 years of human settlement across this region, structures hundreds of years old and one of the things you look for in shallow quakes are the time of day this occurred, 3:36 a.m., the vulnerability of structures, very high here and what were people doing. sleeping. so it is a worst case scenario when you look at the one, two, three of those important elements at play here, so we're going to slhow you exactly whats occurred here and how many aftershocks you should expect with a quake of this magnitude and the intensities of the shake. there's a fascinating calculation where you can tell
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the equivalent energy distribution across an area which in this case would be upwards of 60 million tons of dynamite, sticks of dynamite, to rupture the ground beneath your feet which is what occurred. incredibly similar to what occurred in april of 2009 with the 6.3 that took almost 300 lives in italy. the one in 2009 occurred at 1:32 in the morning. a few hours ago, 3:36 in the morning, the depths both at 10 kilometers, the magnitude is almost identical as well. along a similar area of the fault line so here's the estimated population that felt shaking, up wards of 20 million people and moderate shaking felt for over 12 million, strong shaking felt for over 6 million and very strong shaking which is right near the epicenter, over 230,000 people felt very strong shaking. so, this is what we know as far as, the depth of this quake and
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its proximity and location and the intensity's pretty widely distributed. look at the intensity of that area. that's about a 500 square kilometer area of land where people felt pretty violent shaking at times across this region that lasted up to 45 seconds. so the usgs has looked at economic loss potential. highest probability sits at 35% for over a billion dollars in losses potentially, u.s. dollars they're estimating with structural damage left in place here and the estimated fatalities based on previous quakes, the highest likelihood comes in between 100 to 1,000 people, just shy of that likelihood would be 10 to 100 people so you see the 31 to 33%, which is the biggest gap they put in so it gives you an idea of how much damage and how much loss of life potential there is in this region and again, the timing of the day this occurred does not help, rosemary, but at least we know the weather pattern is going to help with what is left now, which is a search and recovery efforts.
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>> and those figures that you were showing us, the estimated fatalities, how do they work that out? >> the usgs looks at previous earthquakes, similar magnitude and location, and based on that surrounding area, they come up with a statistic that gives you the break down of how many people they think would lose their lives and we know 295 lost their lives in 2009 which was almost an identical quake. that's why they're giving that 100 to 1,000 as the highest likelihood. and we're hoping it's closer to 100. >> absolutely. but a loss for those families nonetheless. >> certainly. >> but thank you so much, pedram javaheri joining us. we appreciate it. coming up, more on the deadly earthquake that struck central italy and the damage that's been called devastating. our breaking news coverage continues. that's next.
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welcome back, everyone. we do want to bring you up to date now on our top story, a magnitude 6.2 earthquake struck central italy early wednesday morning. the quake hit about 10 kilometers south of norcia. that's about 170 kilometers northwest of rome. an aftershock of magnitude 5.5
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followed. one local mayor told state television that half his town is gone. our affiliate, rai, reports at least 14 people have been killed but that death toll is expected to rise. facebook has activated its safety check. the program lets people in and out of disaster zones connect with each other, so of course they can check on their loved ones. now, we'll continue to follow that breaking news story out of italy, but we do want to update you now on another major story we're following. north korea test fires a ballistic test missile and the condemnation is swift. south korea says a north korean submarine launched the missile and it flew 500 kilometers toward japan. now, seoul warns them of more sanctions and isolation. that and i'm quoting here, will only speed up its self-destruction. japan's prime minister called the launch a grave threat to japanese security and an
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unforgivable act. now, this comes as the u.s. and south korea are involved in joint military exercises and china's news agency calls the exercises a dangerous game. our will ripley joins us now from seoul with more on this. so, will, what more are we learning about this ballistic missile and what do we know about possible progress made by north korea when it comes to this type of technology? >> reporter: well, think of it this way, rosemary. back in april, when north korea broadcast those images and that dramatic video of what they were heralding as a successful launch of a submarine launched ballistic missile, that particular missile, according to u.s. strategic command forces, they says it went about 30 kilometers and fell apart essentially. that also was the case last month when they attempted to launch one of these things and it fell apart shortly after takeoff, but in this case, this particular missile traveled, and this has been confirmed by
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multiple countries, 500 kilometers. more than 300 miles so that's 16 times the previous so-called successful north korean test and this is progress that they have made just in a matter of months. it's clear that north korea is no longer concerned about the international community watching these missile tests, even if they're failures. they're continuing to push forward no matter what the perception is because frankly, the leader, kim jong un, has made it clear that investments in their missile technology and nuclear program are going to be their strategy moving forward. north korea has a very large standing army but more and more e we're seeing them invest in these submarine missiles where they can actually get a submarine close to enemy shores. they're investing in mobile launchers and then of course there's the continued focus on intercontinental ballistic missiles, miniaturized nuclear war heads that some day might be capable of striking, among other places, the mainland united states. already north korea's capacity
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continues to grow and this technology allows them to conduct attacks further away from the korean peninsula so certainly a troubling development. the foreign ministers of japan, south korea, and china called this the greatest security threat facing this part of the world right now. >> there's progress indeed. a great concern. we would expect to hear more condemnation from across the globe as the day progresses. it's 4:22 in the afternoon there in seoul, south korea. many thanks to you, will, for joining us. well, turkish armed forces have begun an assault on an isis controlled border town. turkey's official news agency says they are using artillery fire against isis in jarabt. cnn partner cnn turk says military operations have not started. the sources say this is in retaliation after mortars landed in a residential turkey neighborhood on tuesday.
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senior international cnn correspondent ben wedeman joins us. what more are you learning, ben? >> reporter: we understand, rosemary, that this operation began at 4:00 a.m. local time, about seven hours ago, when turkish artillery tanks and f 16s struck targets on the other side of the border on the euphrates river. after an hour and a half, bulldozers cleared entrances or rather passageways through the burn that separates the two countries. now we've been in touch with a syrian rebel commander. their forces have been concentrated on the border, on the turkish side in preparation for this operation, and he says, indeed, they have not gone across the border yet. this is an operation that precedes the south side attack in gaziantep over the weekend
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and it precedes the two days, monday tuesday, of cross border fire from syria. this is something that's been cooking for quite some time. now, the turkish interior ministry has just appeared live on turkish tv in a press conference and he said this operation, which has been dubbed euphrates shield, will go on until the terrorist threat against turkey is eliminated. so, that could be quite some time. now, turkish officials say the purpose of this operation is to destroy isis itself to provide humanitarian support for people inside syria, in that area, and to prevent the flow of refugees from syria into turkey. now, a few days ago, we were in ankara speaking to analysts and they said there's much thinking within the turkish government and the military of creating some sort of buffer zone inside
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syria. 90 kilometers long, along the border, 40 kilometers deep. this is something that turks have been trying to encourage other coalition partners to buy into. it may appear that the turks decided to do it themselves. now, we understand u.s. vice president joe biden is just minutes away from landing here in the turkish capital. obviously, they'll be discussing this situation in syria in addition to some other pressing matters in bilateral relations. rosemary. >> all right. many thanks to you, ben, joining us there from ankara, turkey, appreciate that update on the situation. when we return, more breaking news on the powerful earthquake in central italy. we're back in a moment.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and of course all around the world. i'm rosemary church, want to update you on our breaking news from italy. cnn affiliate rai reports at least 14 people are dead as an overnight earthquake struck central italy early wednesday. now, workers are trying to clear the damage. the 6.2 magnitude quake hit near the town of norcia and a strong aftershock followed an hour after that. now, people in rome could feel the tremors 160 kilometers or 100 miles away. and angela joins me now from rome. she's a journalist with the english news website "the local italy." thank you so much for talking with us.
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despite rome's distance from the epicenter of that 6.2 magnitude quake, as we said, people felt the effects of this. what did you and others experience there in rome, and talk to us about what more you're learning about what is happening there at the epicenter. >> well, the latest death tolls being reported is at least 14. rescuers are still working to either try and find people buried beneath the rubble, victims. we know that the major damage has affected three small towns, two in lacio and one in the marque region. these are two regions that straddle where the epicenter of the anderson cooper w-- earthqu. >> the mayor says amatrice
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essentially doesn't exist anymore. >> soon after the quake, he said that half the town is gone. and this you can imagine that there are many small towns, many thinly populated towns in italy, especially in central italy, so it's hard to give an idea, you know, in terterms of the popular the extent of the damage just yet but yes, the mayors who have spoken now are talking about the severity of the damage and the potential loss and italy's civil protection agency has also said that the damage will be severe. >> and talk to us, angela, about what mechanisms have been put in place to help people and also, you know, we're looking at this heavy lifting equipment there on the ground. what sort of access are they getting, and what do they have access to in terms of the number of heavy lifting equipment available in that particular
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region? >> well, i think, from what, you know, from the scenes that we can see here in rome as well, you know, the rescue services, although some of these places, you know, would be -- you know, being in mountainous places, would be fairly challenging to reach, but it seems that they were fairly quickly at the scenes, and everything is being done now to try and rescue people. >> and how does this compare to past years when earthquakes have hit in terms of getting these rescue operations mobilized for these areas? >> well, it's the second most severe since the l'aquila earthquake back in 2009. you know, for now, the death toll is at least 14, you know, l'aquila, there were over 300 people who died. it is in a seismic area, so the
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country is prepared to some extent for this. and all we can hope is that the death toll will be as limited as possible. that's all i can say for now. >> absolutely. journalist angela giufreida joining us from rome. and earlier, my colleague spoke with eve reed, a briton traveling with her family north of rome and she felt the ground move. >> it was just after 3:30. we were all asleep in bed, three generations of family. so, my husband and i woke up being shaken from side to side in the bed is what it felt like. it probably continued for six or seven seconds after we'd woken up. >> so you feel the shaking. what did you do after that? because those are the moments that are extremely dangerous and were you in an older home or in something that is newer
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construction? >> yeah, we're in a 200-year-old converted farmhouse, a holiday rental. we've stayed in it a couple of times before. so, quite an old property. fully renovated, obviously, but not built with modern, you know, shock proof technology or anything. our children were in the bedroom next door to us so our immediate reaction was to wait until the shaking dies down and then go to check on them to make sure they were okay. >> did the home that you were renting, did it experience any damage? have you seen any damage around and is everybody okay? did anyone receive any injuries during all this? >> no injuries. everybody's fine. the ceiling -- part of the ceiling in one of the bathrooms collapsed. we think just plaster coming away. it's caused quite a lot of damage in the bathroom. fortunately, no one was in there at the time. we're in a very rural area so i can literally only see one house from where we are. that appears to be okay and we've spoken to the neighbors.
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they're okay. >> can you tell me exactly where you are, the name of the village that you're in? >> we're outside of a village called san bernanzo near monte st. martino. >> we're looking at pictures that i think you have sent us. we are looking at that damage you talked about, the bathroom having quite extensive damage and we can see that and we're looking at some of the cracks in the walls. it appears, and i'm assuming those were not there when you got there, correct? >> correct. i don't think that anything is structural. i think it is all internal cracking of plaster. the external of the building appears to be fine. >> we're not seeing huge chunks of stone or anything like that. but we are seeing some of the plaster and we are seeing the cracks there. >> correct. >> do you have any other friends, family, that are in the area that you have tried to contact or have heard from
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anybody who is closer to the epicenter? >> we have spoken to the lady who looks after the property, so the owner. she traveled down to make sure we were okay. i believe they have a little more damage than we do but they're not too far from where we are so not too close for the epicenter. >> i'm sure this is extremely for the family. has the family ever been through an earthquake before? you don't really get these in britain. >> no, obviously, in the uk, it's not something we experience very often add all so i think the family is probably more shaken than people who live in this area or parts of america where it is quite frequent. but we're all okay. we're a little bit shaken. there are still a few aftershocks happening. we had one around half an hour ago that was fairly significant. so, just being careful and making sure we're close to open space. >> and now sara talking there to an earthquake witness. we will, of course, have more on
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this earthquake in italy in just a moment. but first, now, to the u.s. presidential race. donald trump is stepping up his demands that the clinton foundation be investigated and shut down. his latest sal vo comes after an associated press report found that more than half of the private individuals hillary clinton met with as secretary of state donated to her family's foundation. trump says this finding proves she uses pay for play tactics. >> it is impossible to figure out where the clinton foundation ends and the state department begins. it is now abundantly clear that the clintons set up a business to profit from public office. they sold access and specific actions by and really for, i guess, the making of large
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amounts of money. >> now, the clinton campaign rejects the ap report saying, in part, the story relies on utterly flawed data. it cherry picked a limited subset of secretary clinton's schedule to give a distorted portrayal. well, donald trump is also slamming clinton's immigration policies. he used a campaign stop in texas tuesday to highlight what he says are problems with her plan. >> and hillary clinton wants a totally open border. she wants catch and release. she wants obamacare and other things for illegal immigrants, in many cases more than our great veterans get. she has said she's going to give massive amnesty in her first 100
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days. >> so, let's get more on all of this now from phillip bump. he is a political reporter for the "washington post." phillip, great to talk to you as always. let's start with immigration. donald trump says he's open to softening on immigration laws but just weeks before the presidential election, we're not seeing any details just yet. his campaign manager says his position on deportation is yet to be determined. so, what's his new plan likely to look like, and will voters trust any changes so late in the game, do you think? >> right. i think that's the key. the question is whether or not people will actually take him at his word that he is a changed donald trump on the subject of immigration. quite frankly, i have no idea what he might pro pose given that he has proposed one thing and now appears to be walking away from it. what he's likely to propose is what he thinks will be the best at reeling in republicans who are ifty on his candidacy. and that's who's really the target here. rereally wants to show
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republicans that he is okay to go vote for and this is one step on that path. >> and what about donald trump's attention to the clinton foundation, how likely is it that those attacks will gain any traction? >> i think it's probably pretty likely. i mean, he has repeatedly gone after hillary clinton. i'm not sure that he's going to begin any new followers, simply because people have suddenly new concerns about hillary clinton. they've had concerns about hillary clinton for a while. i think what this could do is f nothing else is make some of hillary's support a little bit softer in the same way that his support got soft after the conventions. we're very early in this phase of the story. it's a story that's been going on for a long time, but i think that, you know, of the tools he has at his disposal, this is one of the better ones. >> "washington post" reporter phillip talking to me a little earlier. after the break, we'll have more of our breaking news coverage on the kwaeearthquake central italy. do stay with us.
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welcome back, everyone. we are covering breaking news out of central italy where a powerful 6.2 magnitude earthquake rocked that area just a few hours ago. the quake has left terrified residents huddled outside collapsed buildings and others are trapped beneath the rubble. our affiliate rai reports at least 22 people have been killed now. a spokesman with the red cross says the priority right now, of course, is to find survivors. we'll keep an eye on that story but want to cover this just for a moment. ukraine is marking 25 years since it gained independence from the soviet union, but even after a quarter century, ukrainian soldiers say they're still fighting to escape moscow's dominance. our phil black got an up close and personal insight into europe's forgotten war. here's his exclusive report. >> reporter: through this gate
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is one front line of a war still ravaging a country and destroying lives. a year and a half after all side promised to cease fire. we're with ukrainian soldiers in the country's east as they try to hold the position against pro russian forces. that's incoming fire slamming into the walls of this shed. the people here say that this is what it's like every single day. they're not just lobbing stuff at each other. they're trying to move forward, take each other's territory. the captain tells us we must now run. >> quickly, quickly, quickly. >> reporter: this short dash for cover draws fire. we shelter in the remains of another devastated building. the source of the incoming fire is very close.
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so your enemy is out that way? >> yes, that way, 100 kilometers >>. >> reporter: 100 meters away? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: the pause in the shooting allows us to move forward. we cross more open ground between old buildings. this industrial site is a fiercely contested prize. the ukrainian forces say they've lost ten men here in the last month, and there are casualties every day. the captain wants to show us one of the positions they're being attacked from. just there? >> yes. >> reporter: a tall tower-like building so close we could stroll there in less than a minute. >> go, go, go. >> reporter: we're being pulled out. at that moment, the fighting picks up. there's incoming fire from several directions.
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there is now fighting during the day every day. but more than that, it's in the evening. 4:00, like clock work, this begins. and it really kicks off. step back. why is this position, this territory so important? he says the enemy has already moved beyond the line of control set in the peace deal known as the minsk agreement. he says that the pro-russian forces move forward from here, they could keep going and take any city in ukraine. from relative safety, we listen to the noise of war. until it gets too close. m mortars land just outside. they've punched through this building before. we should go now?
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okay. ready. we good? chris, you good? >> let's go, let's go, let's. >> reporter: bullets whistle around our team during the final run to safety. this is what a cease-fire looks like in eastern ukraine. >> incredible report there and our phil black joins us now live from eastern ukraine. phil, of course, ukraine might be celebrating 25 years of independence from the soviet union but on the ground in eastern ukraine, the battle for independence continues. so, how much worse might this fighting get? how might it escalate, perhaps, from here? >> reporter: well, rosemary, it is an active war, and what we've seen in recent months, an intensifying one. so, for some months now, greater violence, more casualties, including civilians.
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add to that russian military maneuvers and a real increase in the aggressive nature of the rhetoric between ukraine and russia. that is why the ukrainian government and some international analysts are suggesting that the possibility of a wide scale open conflict is now suddenly looking more likely again. there is another view, however, and that this could be russia, if you like, increasing the stakes, creating leverage to try and use in further talks that could perhaps portray ukraine as the unreliable partner in any sort of peace process, thus allowing it to allow that minsk agreement to be enforced perhaps more along its terms and in the end, perhaps, russia's ultimate goal could be getting some of those international sanctions released. we know that russia has been talking to the leaders of germany and france. they are the other key partners that have negotiated what really is a pretty shaky peace plan so far.
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and they will be talking about that more when they all get together at the upcoming beijing ge 20 summit. they're going to be talking about ukraine on the sidelines of that early next month. rosemary. >> all right. many thanks to our phil black again, incredible report there on your embed and a live report there from ukraine. it is nearly 11:00 in the morning there. many thanks, phil. well, our clarissa ward sat down with ukrainian president for an exclusive president. our international viewers can watch that wednesday on amanpour. that is 7:00 p.m. in london, 10:00 p.m. in abu dhabi. we continue our coverage of a deadly earthquake in central italy.
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we do want to update you now on the strong earthquake in central italy. it's still early, but our affiliate rai reports at least 21 people are dead, following the 6.2 magnitude earthquake. the mayor of amatrice says his town is no more and access to the area is cut off. helicopters and rescue vehicles are heading to the quake zone to
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set up mobile medical units. we'll continue to cover this story, of course. i'm rosemary church. for our viewers in north america, early start is next. for the rest of our viewers, coverage continues after this break with hannah von jones. thanks for your company.
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♪ breaking overnight -- a deadly earthquake hits central italy. we're getting our first look at the damage and the death toll. officials now trying to find survivors in the rubble. we'll have the very latest on this draddy. donald trump is sailing the hillary clinton over the clinton foundation report. he says had may soften his tone on immigration but could that ultimately cost him? good morning, welcome to the middle of your week, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> always glad to be here, ri

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